These are very cool sounding 12" hi hats.
Both stamped Made In Germany.
See History below from the internet.
Cleaned up nicely.
Very little use.
Of of the holes has a bend but NOT a chip or crack.
Same one has a slight bent on outer part of cymbal. See all pictures!
Own a great piece of Luddie history!
Do it! As Is.
"Ludwig Standards" were made in Germany and are made from NS12 alloy. These would be considered beginner cymbals. They have even more variability than the Ludwigs. I think they would be equivalent to the "Dixie" series by Paiste. That said, some Ludwig Standards, as well as Dixies were also produced in Switzerland. It appears that some of the larger size cymbals may have been produced in Switzerland possible due to limitations in manufacturing capacity in Germany or maybe it was due to quality issues. So, you will also see Ludwig Standards with the made in Switzerland stamp also.